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- From: Jim Rogers <jfr@fc.hp.com>
- Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic,alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.ufo.reports
- Subject: Re: Faces on Mars
- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:15:30 -0600
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- Josh Olaf wrote:
- > Jim Rogers wrote:
- > > Josh Olaf wrote:
- > > > Maury Markowitz wrote:
- .....
- > > > > Let alone the fact that they did leave one other carving, Kermit the
- > > > > Frog. Yes, Kermit, as discovered by the Viking missions.
- > > >
- > > > Since you know so much about these Viking missions, please provide the frame number
- > > > of your Kermit the Frog image. We have yet to see an unedited version of this
- > > > photograph.
- > >
- > > That *is* an "unedited version." I don't (yet) have a frame number, but
- > > one of us here is bound to dig it up sooner or later. For the moment,
- > > can you work from the assumption that the image of Kermit is genuine?
- >
- > No, only because I have seen the unedited frames and there is no
- > possible way the original frame could have been cropped to just show
- > Kermit swinging on his branch. The point is, if the entire frame
- > is posted, or a frame number given so that I can access it myself,
- > then I'm almost certain that the photo will be proved worthless because
- > we will get to see Kermit in relation to the surrounding background, which
- > will more than likely contain the same textures and terrain features.
-
- Of course it will. Browse all around the "Alba Patera" region and you'll see
- that Kermit is "just" a lava flow. The point is that the lava flow *really
- does* look like Kermit sitting on a branch. So it was cropped. So what? The
- "face" frame was cropped and zoomed-in on to show the face. So what?
-
- > This "edited" appearance is opposed to the full-frame Cydonia surface
- > photos, which maintain a consistent "look" throughout multiple frames
- > and sun angles, and which have been tested and analyzed by a number of
- > researchers, including Mark J. Carlotto.
-
- I have no idea what distinction you're trying to draw here. When *I* look
- at the Cydonia plain, I see several hills scattered about with a pyramidal
- shape that have large-scale similarities to the "face" hill (minus the
- strategic indentations, that is). The "face" is in a region of similarly-
- shaped hills, much like "Kermit" is in a region of similarly-shaped lava
- flow patterns (ignoring detail that evokes the illusion in both cases).
-
- Jim
-